Justice League #25
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With this week’s Justice League #25, series writer Scott Snyder finishes the Justice League’s stint in the Sixth Dimension and sends the universe reeling toward the events of “The Year of the Villain” and "Justice: Doom War" events.

And according to Snyder, the World Forger’s threat that the DC Multiverse will be judged does come to fruition in upcoming issues.

Working with artist Jorge Jimenez (who also gets a writing credit for contributing to the plot), Snyder has been telling the story of the Justice League battling efforts by Lex Luthor and his Legion of Doom to reform the Earth into the predatory home of a cosmic being known as Perpetua.

In these latest issues, the Justice League has visited the Sixth Dimension and found Perpetua’s son, the World Forger, trying to replace the DCU’s Multiverse with a different version, one ruled by order and preventative arrests. Batman seems to have betrayed the heroes, and Superman is trapped in a pocket universe where there’s no sunlight - and seemingly, no hope.

Newsarama talked to Snyder to find out more about Justice League #25, how the “judgment” of the Multiverse will be central to the issues coming up, and what readers can expect next.

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Newsarama: Scott, as we head toward Justice League #25, one of the central threats to the DCU is the “judgment” of the universe by these cosmic beings. How did that concept arise in your mind as the writer, and how important is it going forward?

Scott Snyder: It’s huge. It’s everything we’ve been building toward, essentially. It’s definitely a real thing that’s coming in our storyline.
With “Justice: Doom War,” which is next and starts with issue #30, we really dive into that.

The idea is essentially that the Multiverse was made in such a way that the hope was that it would evolve and become something greater than it began as.

And multiverses that that happens to eventually are judged by the beings that made them, and they ascend. We don’t know what that really means yet, in our story. I mean, we know - the writers. But we haven’t explained what that is yet.

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If the multiverse breaks along the way, or they kind of descend into a doom formation or these things, they’re put back in the kind of giant cosmic cauldron and recycled, their energy and stardust and so-on.

So there are beings, such as Perpetua - her race of people - that judge multiverses.

Our Multiverse broke because of the Source Wall and all of this stuff.

So the heroes are desperate to get it into a formation that’s going to be judged as something heroic, something inspiring, so that these cosmic beings will allow it to continue, as opposed to disintegrating it.

Nrama: So much of this story seems very biblical. In this storyline in particular, there’s an emphasis on hope versus giving up and starting over. Not only is Superman’s journey centered on hope, but also the path that the World Forger is taking versus what the heroes want to do.

Snyder: Yeah, completely. All of Justice League is really about one thing. It’s about a crisis moment when the entire world, the entire universe has to make a choice. And that choice, led by the heroes, really has to be either we take a leap of faith with each other and hope that we get to the other side by being communal and good and collective, or we take the short-cut, which is more likely to get us through, but is selfish and will sacrifice many of us.

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That choice, to me, is the choice that I think a lot of us face right now in the real world. That’s why this story is desperately resonant to me on a personal level, because the world my kids are growing up in has these tremendous, systemic, almost seemingly insurmountable problems that are going to require huge gestures of unity between nations and all kinds of communal action.

Yet I think there’s this huge push from leaders, and also from a lot of our own worst impulses, to retreat into ourselves and say, who cares about everybody else? Get what we need for ourselves right now, and we’ll survive fine on our own. And who cares about these other areas of the world that are going to suffer?

To me, that’s what this story is about. It’s just translated into comic book lunacy, which I adore, with huge cosmic beings and apex predator human Lex Luthor and 10,000 Brainiac ships attacking and all kinds of stuff that’s coming down the pike.

So it’s very important to me on a persona level, in that regards, and along the lines that you’re speaking to.

Nrama: How does this week’s issue conclude the “Sixth Dimension” storyline and set up the “Year of the Villain"?

Snyder: We wanted it to really feel conclusive so that it has a huge finale, big fight, big ending, giant consequences and all that stuff and you get closure.

But at the same time, it has some of the biggest hooks that are going to lead you to the next section.

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The issue is oversized. It’s about 40 pages. It’s kind of non-stop twists and turns. And when you get to the end, you’ll see that the whole shape of the Justice League changes and their mission changes, and what Lex Luthor has done to start the "Year of the Villain".

That event really starts in earnest in this issue.

It’s so dramatic and so different than anything we’ve seen, and you can tell it’s going to change the DCU in a huge way going forward.

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