THORSDAY: Why They Endure: THOR - An Immortal Hero
Why They Endure: THOR
When you talk about how long most iconic comic book characters have endured, it's a matter of decades.
Thor? Try centuries.
Thor the comic book character is, of course, based on Thor the mythological Norse god. Records of the name being used by Germanic peoples date back to the 7th century. But there's a great deal of difference between the Thor of legend and the Thor created by Stan Lee, Larry Lieber and Jack Kirby.
"In the original Norse myths, he was this kind of boorish, drunken, fun-loving brawler that used to team up with Loki all the time, and Loki would constantly have to bail him out with magic, and smarts, and clever thinking," said Fred Van Lente, writer of comics including Incredible Hercules and the comic book industry history Comic Book Comics. "When Marvel introduced him, he was a lot more noble."
Clearly, there is something unique about Thor that's made him last over the years, to the point where's he's placed in the upper echelon of Marvel heroes like Spider-Man, Captain America and the Hulk — all who have slightly tidier beginnings.
"A big dude that likes hitting stuff is fun to watch," said comic book editor and writer Nate Cosby, succinctly explaining the character's Mjolnir-fueled appeal. "Visually, he’s Superman with a hammer. A strong, striking presence will buy a character a long shelf-life."
"Thor's a big whiny baby put in time-out," Cosby said. "His whole life's been non-stop grand adventures and doing whatever the hell he wanted, whenever the hell he wanted to do it. Then he makes an unconscionable, unfathomably stupid decision, so his dad's gotta teach him a lesson."
Thor's familial disputes aren't limited to father and son. His adopted brother Loki has been both his best friend, and, more commonly, his greatest enemy.
"As the superhero genre has been dominated these past 40 years by a mostly male fan base (and thankfully that is changing), Marvel Comics' incarnation of Thor embodies much of what his fans recognize in their own lives," Glass said. "Thor endures his trials, triumphs and flourishes like a warrior prince should, and who can't take inspiration from that?"
"He's not an orphan," Gillen said. "In fact, a primary source of drama is his relationship with his father and the pressures a present father figure gives are interestingly different from a missing, idealized parental figure."
It's frequently said that superheroes are modern myths, and the fact that Thor is both a superhero and a mythological figure creates what Glass calls an "intriguing irony."
"The irony is that they took a god hero of one age and made of him a hero god of our age, attributing to him the heroic virtues of the Marvel universe just as his creators had applied to him the virtues of their own culture," said Glass, who wrote a promotional tie-in comic to the Thor movie for Burger King, and also an upcoming iPhone game starring the character.
"I think that he embodies a lot of qualities that you can associate with other heroes, but he embodies them uniquely," Miller said. "When you think of the man who's cast down to Earth, and he's got the powers of a god, the first place you go to is Superman — but you take away Superman's powers, and he's just the guy who gets his ass kicked in Superman II in a bar.
"But Thor? You take away Thor's powers, and you stick him in a cage with 50 guys — pick the 50 toughest guys you can find — Thor walks out alive. Those guys walk out, or maybe they don't. He's still cool, even if you take away his powers."
In an interview last year with Newsarama, Robert Rodi, writer of several Thor series including Astonishing Thor, Loki and Thor: For Asgard, remarked that "you can do so many different types of stories" with the character. Gillen agrees.
"As an extended cast, Thor has an enormous amount of range," Gillen told Newsarama. "Spider-Man's setting is in primarily New York. Thor can go into his past, and lean fantasy. He can go into space, and lean cosmic. He can go into space, in a different way, and lean more pure science-fiction."
Simonson's stint as writer and artist of Thor in the 1980s is widely considered to be the definitive take on the character. Van Lente said that both following the end of Simonson's run, and after the departure of original artist Jack Kirby circa 1970, Thor struggled a bit to connect with readers.
"Spider-Man has the 'nerd gets superpowers' wish-fulfillment, Batman has that eternal pulp avenger thing going on," said Van Lente, who wrote the movie version of Thor for a story in Disney Publishing’s Thor: The Official Movie Magazine. "I can't think of another superhero franchise that has not struggled. I don't think that necessarily has anything to do with Thor, I think that has to do with the nature of fictional franchises in general."
"I think the three years gap reminded people of how much they actually liked the guy," Gillen said. "With certain characters you can just become over-comfortable with them being around. Talking as someone who wasn't writing for Marvel then, that gap was one of the bravest and smartest things I saw in '00s comics editorial decisions. A little gap, and bring him back with a thoroughly modern take by some of our best creators."
Despite Thor's recent successes, Gillen does admit that the Asgardian can sometimes be a tougher sell than his superhero brethren.
"There are a few reasons why Thor can be trickier," Gillen said. "The core metaphorical appeal of Thor is often less front and center than others, and some perfectly valid takes tend to lead Thor into genres that tend to be less popular in the comics mainstream. Thor can operate as the closest the comic mainstream has to a pure fantasy comic. Hell, I've written Thor as a pure fantasy comic… but doing that too much has a tendency to lose people.
"The more you do that, the more you can lose the larger audience. Thor's also got a tendency to drift towards being a little too po-faced for comfort if left to its own devices. The problem with both is that Thor should include both of those elements — in fact, those elements can be core of its appeal — but it has to include a whole lot else, too."Now, though, Thor is appearing in two ongoing titles from Marvel — The Mighty Thor and the Gillen-written Journey Into Mystery — and has starred in numerous miniseries and one-shots in the past year, as the company has been determined to get plenty of product in the hands of anyone curious about the character after seeing the film.
So with decades of comic book history and centuries of mythological lore leading to this week's film exposing him to his widest audience yet, Thor stands out, not just among superheroes, but also his fellow Norse gods.
"The Norse pantheon is huge," said Zack Stentz, Miller's fellow Thor screenwriter. "But when Christianity was first coming to Scandinavia, the competing god that they set up against the rising power of Christianity was Thor. You either wore a cross, or you wore a little hammer. Thor was the one they put forward from the very beginning."Visit Newsarama on FACEBOOK and TWITTER and tell us what you think! <li> THORSDAY: THOR the Best, Most Fun Marvel Studios Movie Yet <li> THORSDAY: Walt Simonson THOR Artist's Edition "Special" <li> THORSDAY: Norse Myths You Won't See in Marvel Comics