THORSDAY: The Mythological Versus the Marvel THOR
With the Thor movie hitting theaters this weekend, America will be introduced to Marvel Comics' god of thunder.
But how similar is Marvel's version to the Thor from Norse mythology?
"I sometimes use this as a question on my final exam," laughed Merrill Kaplan, who teaches Norse literature and folklore to college students. "The comics got the basics right. Thor is a defender of mankind. And he's got his handy hammer. Those are big. But just about everything else is different."
Kaplan should know. As an assistant professor of Folklore and Scandinavian Studies at The Ohio State University, she's heard a lot about Marvel's Thor from students. "It's fun having those guys in class, and they bring a certain amount of energy," Kaplan said, admitting that she's done a little comics research herself by reading some of comic book creator Walt Simonson's Thor - largely considered Marvel's definitive run - and all of The Ultimates, featuring a more comtemporary, alternative versions of Marvel Universe heroes.
"But what's essential for them is to realize this is a different guy," Kaplan said. "This is not Marvel Thor that I'm talking about [in class]. And it's fun to see them have that moment of confusion, and you get to watch what they find disappointing, and then you get to watch them get excited about the stuff they never knew."
Kaplan is hoping the movie inspires more students to sign up for Norse mythology classes. She already gets quite a few students who take the class after encountering Norse names in video games like World of Warcraft and Baldur's Gate.
"I love it when I get students who are interested," she said. "I get energy in my classroom."
So what are the similarities and differences between Marvel's Thor and his mythological inspiration?
One of the most obvious aspects of Marvel's Thor is that he's a superhero, fighting for good and defending those in need.Thor's Battle Against
the Ettins (1872)
by Mårten Eskil WingeAccording to Kaplan, that version of Thor isn't much of a stretch. "The mythological Thor is, of the Norse gods, the one closest to looking like a human hero," she said, "so if you were going to pull out a god from Norse mythology and make him into a hero working on behalf of mankind, Thor's your man."
But Kaplan said "looking" like a human hero doesn't mean his actual appearance.
"What I mean is that Thor in mythology is very much heroic in that he runs out and battles and saves people. He's the defender of the realm of gods and men. He goes out and smites trolls. He fights one-on-one," she said. "And in stories of human heroes, a lot of them are monster-slayers. So of all the Norse gods, Thor fits best with that idea of a hero. The stories of Thor make sense if you substitute a human in there. That's not true of stories about Odin or Loki."
In the Thor film, movie-goers will see Chris Hemsworth, who is playing Thor, wielding a hammer that is named Mjölnir, with a name and power that is similar to its roots in mythology.
"The hammer's dead-on," Kaplan said. "The Thor in mythology has a hammer. It really does return when he throws it. We never actually see that in the stories, but we're told in one of our best sources that that is true. The boomerang thing is dead-on."
Appearance and Masculinity
But Thor of mythology is supposed to be a redhead and have a beard, which Kaplan admits may sound "picky," but is related to the system of Norse mythology in an important way.
"This was a society where beards are an important signifier of masculinity, and Thor in the mythology is very much about the ideals of masculinity," she said. "You take that away from him and it changes who he is."
Kaplan cited a story where others dress Thor up in women's clothing. "He absolutely flips. He's like, 'all the other gods will call me a sissy!' And [the story's] all about him getting his hammer back," she laughed. "See? Myths are great."
Although Kaplan admitted she has seen beards on the comic book version of Thor — naming Marvel's Red Norvill as an example — she said the Thor movie's blond, clean shaven, blue-eyed Thor represents something very different from the traditional mythology.
[editor's note: Chris Hemsworth's movie Thor does have facial hair, a close-shaven, blond beard.]
"I'm not sure why he wasn't created as a redhead. I suppose you can make some interpretations about what the blond is about. After all, we've got understandings about what 'blue-eyed, blond' means.
"But there are things that it is not about, because, after all, this was [Jack] Kirby, who was Jewish," she said, naming the artist who originally co-created the Marvel character. "I believe it mostly has to do with our idea of what 'Scandinavian' is supposed to look like."
Odin and Loki
In Thor, Odin is played by Anthony Hopkins, and Kaplan said the character's portrayal contrasts greatly with the version from mythology.
"When I saw the trailer, the part when I really cracked up is when Anthony Hopkins scolds his son for bringing on war," she said. "But Odin in mythology starts wars, creates strife."
Kaplan explained that in Norse mythology, the gods are usually battling the giants. "During these constant battles with giants, Odin creates strife," she said. "But he's not a hand-to-hand combat guy like Thor. Odin's contribution is frequently gathering knowledge and prophecy and magic stuff. His associations are with warfare, strife, poetry and the type of magic that men are not supposed to do."
Odin frequently lies, and he engages in battles of words and knowledge, she explained. And no matter what, the gods always beat the giants — until the end, which is called "Ragnarök," where the giants finally beat the gods.
"[Odin is] also the one who steals poetry from the giants and brings it to gods and people," Kaplan said. "But poetry is actually an alcoholic magical substance, and one of the words for poetry is also the word for madness, so he's also kind of associated with insanity, because it's the idea that you're in a slightly altered state when you compose.
"The idea of intoxication is very central to Odin's profile, but I don't think you're going to see that in the movie," she said.
Maid It Is!" (1902)
by Elmer Boyd Smith.
Thor is dressed as the
goddess Freyja by
two maidens, while Loki
looks on and laughs.Loki, who is played by Tom Huddleston in the film, is a trickster in mythology, just like he is in the comics. "But he doesn't lie, and he always makes things right again," Kaplan said. "Typically, he makes trouble for the gods, and then he gets them out of it. He'll make contracts and mess things up. Then he has to be tricky in order to make things right again. So he's interesting because he's very much about making trouble, but he doesn't lie. Odin lies all the time."
She said both Odin and Loki are trouble-makers, but they're very different from their Marvel counterparts.
"Odin is a disturbing guy. He's dishonest and he makes trouble on a really, really big scale, although he is trying to avert Ragnarök," Kaplan said. "Loki makes trouble; typically he fixes it. There's one crucial time when he doesn't: He's the one who starts Ragnarök, so he takes down the entire mess, eventually. So you can see that, because Thor is very straight ahead, and on your side, that's what makes him more like a human hero."
In mythology, Thor seems to be very much about the family unit, Kaplan said, which is something she hasn't seen addressed in the Thor comic character.
"In mythology, his wife's name is Sif, but in mythology, she's not someone with a sword [like she is in the comics and movie], which is too bad. And in the mythology, she's blond, with a whole myth about why she's blond," Kaplan said, contrasting her with Marvel's brown-haired, sword-wielding Sif.
John Charles Dollman"His wife's name means something like 'kinship relation,' so there's something very basic about the family being part of Thor's profile. And when he's referred to not by name, but in terms of other things, he may be very frequently called 'husband of Sif,' or 'father of Magni,' or 'son of Odin,'" she said. "And the poetic language about him tends to be in terms of family."
The Age of Geeks
The addition of the Thor movie into pop culture is just another layer of Norse mythology's continuing endurance among geeks, Kaplan said.
"In its way, Norse mythology is still alive," she said. "I don't mean paganism is alive, although there are people who have tried to revive rituals regarding these stories. But there has never been a point at which no one has been interested in this stuff.
"When the age of Norse paganism closed in history," she said, "the age of geeks opened."
The age of geeks?
Kaplan laughed, explaining that most of what we know about Norse mythology comes from monks and Christian writers who weren't worshipping these gods, but were just "geeking out" about how "cool" the stories were.
"Some of them were men in monasteries, professional men of the clergy, who thought these stories were really cool," she said. "It's the age of geeks that kept Norse myth alive. And I guess it's what continues to keep it alive."
Kaplan said there are also influences from Norse mythology that most people don't even realize. For example, "Thursday" derives from "Thor's Day."
"Somebody is always naming something after a Norse god or goddess or something in the myths," she said, citing Norwegian oil platforms called Thor and Odin. "In a way, the story of Norse mythology is still going on."
While Kaplan doesn't consider the comic book stories to be "myths," she does think they're worthy of serious study, and pointed out more than one of her colleagues at Ohio State who teach classes on comic books.
"Are [comics] stories that are very significant to us and are worth analyzing as expressions of our culture? Totally!" she said. "But myths are narratives set in the distant past or future about the creation institution of some very fundamental aspects of the cosmos and society, and which are regarded as true and sacred by somebody. Comics are really not about that, and they certainly are not sacred. But hey, I think we can study them anyway."
And she doesn't mind that mythological Thor has been changed for the comics and movies. "Nobody gets upset about the Disney version of Robin Hood, just because Robin Hood's not a fox," she said. "We keep telling stories to ourselves and using them to think about different things, and trying really consciously to make them have meaning. And that's important in its own way."
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