Captain America #44
This week saw the latest issue of Captain America hit comic
shops, the second part of the three-issue “Time’s Arrow” arc, which,
among other things, fills in more of Bucky’s past as the Winter
Soldier, and the return of Batroc the Leaper.
Due to scheduling issues, it’s been a little while since we’ve spoken with Captain America
writer Ed Brubaker, so we wanted to catch up with him on the conclusion
of “The Man Who Bought America” arc, Bucky finally debuting to the
public as Captain America, and more. And hey, if you haven’t read issue
#44 yet, this interview has no spoilers – so read away!
Newsarama: Ed, it's been a little while since we last spoke
about Cap, so before we get into the new arc, let's talk about the
conclusion of ‘The Man Who Bought America.’ First off, let's look at
what ultimately took down Skull's plan - his planned jump into Sharon's
body…or was that the plan?
Ed Brubaker: That's not what the Skull's plan was at all. He was
going to go into the body that was appearing on the platform. Sharon
broke the machinery and prevented all that. And yeah, that scene has
been part of the plan since issue #25 was written.
NRAMA: Just before Sharon shoots Lukin...we saw Skull talking "as" Lukin...
EB: Right - Lukin was finally free of the Skull, is what
happened there, and he was ecstatic about it, because it had been so
long since he had his mind to himself. Then Sharon stepped out and shot
the hell out of him.
NRAMA: There's been some commenting among readers about the
treatment of Sharon - that is, her mind was taken over, she was a
prisoner, (a pregnant one at that), tortured, lost the baby, and
despite killing Lukin, is now shown to be in rough shape, and has Sam
looking over her. Can you comment on how you saw Sharon throughout this
storyline, and where we are, relative to her larger story?
EB: Oh, Sharon's story is far from over. She's just out of the
spotlight for a while. She's one of my favorite characters and I think
she was the real hero of the last few years of the book, in many ways.
She's had a rough time, but she made it out the other side. Her
instinct to be willing to die to save what would have been her baby
really broke her out of mind-control, and so I saw that as a small
piece of Steve saving her, which is how she would think of it, too.
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NRAMA: Moving up to where things are now - the relationship
between Natasha and Bucky...how would you characterize it? Clearly,
they're reunited lovers, but is this anything more than an affair of
convenience for them, fueled by adrenaline and seeing each other in
tight clothes, or is there something real there?
EB: Oh, well, time will tell, but yeah, they're seeing a lot of
each other. For her, he represents an understanding of her past, as
well as an early love returned. And for Bucky, she's one of the only
people who knows everything about him, or nearly everything.
NRAMA: By the end of issue #42 - where did you want to have Bucky in regards to his role?
EB: Accepting it, basically. I saw the Bucky part of this as him
struggling to live up to the legacy of Steve Rogers, and being
uncomfortable with it, even. So ultimately he has to accept this is
what's happening, this is who he is, and this is how he pays life back
for everything bad he did.
NRAMA: Moving on to #43 and "Time's Arrow" - this is a clearly
marked three issue arc. Structurally, is that what you're looking at
now for the immediate future - shorter arcs?
EB: Well, it's a shorter arc, but it leads right into another three-parter, so it's really a bigger two-act story, in some ways.
NRAMA: Also in issue #43, you established that Bucky has been
active in the Marvel U as Cap - with the scenes that show him fighting
against AIM, Wrecker, and then in Secret Invasion. As we've talked about before, Bucky's been very limited in his appearances outside of Captain America, and you managed to keep Secret Invasion out of the series or see him spin off into his own SI
miniseries. With this page and the conclusion of ‘The Man Who Bought
America’ behind you, have you kind of "given your blessing" to seeing
Cap/Bucky show up in other books?
EB: Yeah, in a few. I needed to get all the way through “Man Who
Bought America” before I could have him publicly revealed, and that
coincided nicely with his appearances in Secret Invasion. But
yeah, I really wanted his public debut to be that moment when he saves
the Presidential Candidates during the debates, especially when I
realized the timing of these issues would actually be close to the real
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So now, a month or so has passed in the Marvel U and Captain America,
the unregistered one with the gun, has been seen a bit, and accepted by
a lot of other heroes. There's one prominent series where you'll soon
be seeing a lot of New Cap, actually.
NRAMA: Not that you're writing every other book in the Marvel U,
but in your view, how do the other heroes of the Marvel Universe see,
or should see Bucky/Cap? Obviously, they know he's not Steve...and
given the paranoia following Civil War and Secret Invasion,
it would seem like now is the worst time to show up as a new guy in the
Marvel Universe, even if you’re wearing a familiar costume...
EB: That's true, but in Bucky's case, it's a bit different...
He's been given clearance by the Falcon and Black Widow, Nick Fury is
tight with him, and he's stood toe-to-toe with Hawkeye over the shield.
He's earned some respect, and is being given the chance to prove he
deserves more. Plus he fought side-by-side with Thor and Iron Man
against the Skrulls. That didn't hurt his popularity with the other
NRAMA: Globally speaking, with a new storyline started, and the cast looking ahead (that is, they're not focusing on Cap's death as they had been since #25...) how do you keep Steve as a "part" of the book?
EB: For now, this is becoming much more Bucky's book, as this
next arc really brings the New Cap face-to-face with his past as the
Winter Soldier. And much of that concerns the legacy he's trying to
live up to... so Steve's shadow still haunts the book even when it's
not front and center.
NRAMA: Batroc...ah, Batroc. I remember back when Mark Waid was
writing Cap, that he took it as something of a personal challenge to
make Batroc cool - perhaps for the first time. What do you see in him,
and why is he a worthy foe for Cap...or for anyone, for that matter?
EB: Batroc was always kind of cool, I just hated the accent. But
the idea of this hardcore French mercenary/kung fu expert was always
good. If you look at his early appearances, he didn't become a joke for
a while, when the accent was played up for laughs. I guess I was
picking up the challenge where Mark left it. Although I wish we'd been
able to change his colors and costume more.
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NRAMA: Speaking of the accent you handled that problem a bit by
having him speaking entirely in French for a period. We're not wanting
to portray Newsarama as one of those culturally insensitive sites that
never took French in college, but...well, we never took French in
EB: He's mostly talking smack. That was my solution for the
accent, to just have him speak French. My favorite part is the
beginning, where the guard asks "is that French?" and he kicks him and
says "Oui." It's just so condescending.
And hey, I don't speak French either. I wrote it in English and sent it to my editor for the French editions of Criminal and got him to translate it for me.
NRAMA: Along with bringing back Batroc, which can in and of
itself, induce cringes in some fans, you paid homage to Kirby's scene
showing Steve wearing the shield under his street clothes (which if I
remember correctly, was a styling pinstripe suit the kind only the King
could get away with drawing). That scene was in Marvel's Official
No-Prize Book...you're a huge Cap and Marvel fan...why, man, why? Why
bring the idea that Captain America's large, inflexible shield can
easily fit on someone's back? Or is your back 30" across, and you just
figure everyone can hide one there, too? [laughs]
EB: I know, but... come on, it's comics, man. Sometimes you have to do stuff like that or it's no fun.
NRAMA: Any hints on what kind of archive Batroc's guys were stealing from the UN?
EB: Yeah, there are hints all over the issues. (Maniacal laughter)
NRAMA: Given the parallel storylines in the issue, we're going to see Professor Zhang Chin again?
EB: Oh yeah, he's going to become a recurring villain, I hope. I even have a cool name for him that I have yet to reveal.
NRAMA: Bigger picture, what's your goal with the book in the short term, now that you've established - firmly - Bucky as Cap?
EB: Just to keep our readers entertained. We've held onto a huge
amount of people who jumped onboard after the Death issue, and here we
are, almost 25 issues from that. I just want to reward the people who
are coming along for the ride, because this has been amazing for me.